# Failing to setup due to pip version
**URL:** https://community.openconversational.ai/t/failing-to-setup-due-to-pip-version/13964
**Category:** Archive - Former Random Mycroft Category
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.openconversational.ai/t/failing-to-setup-due-to-pip-version/13964 "2023-10-13T20:58:08Z")
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### Author:  [@Jay](https://community.openconversational.ai/u/Jay)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.openconversational.ai/t/failing-to-setup-due-to-pip-version/13964/1 "2023-10-13T20:58:08Z")
Hello.
No matter what I try, I cannot get mycroft installed on a fresh install of ubuntu 22.04 due to the following error:
WARNING: You are using pip version 20.0.2; however, version 23.2.1 is available.
You should consider upgrading via the ‘/home/jay/mycroft-core/.venv/bin/python3 -m pip install --upgrade pip’ command.
No matter what I try I cannot get past this error.
I have upgraded in every which way possible, nothing works.
I don’t really know what more I can ask or explain, I have probably done every recommendation that I will be provided with…
What is the secret? Surely this has frustrated many people in the past with it not just being a simple installation.
I am going to try Picroft\_v20.08\_2020-09-07.img on a raspberry pi to see if that works out of the box
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### Author:  [@JarbasAl](https://community.openconversational.ai/u/JarbasAl)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.openconversational.ai/t/failing-to-setup-due-to-pip-version/13964/2 "2023-10-13T21:59:37Z")
Tldr, Mycroft is abandonware, you need to move to OVOS or Neon, the surviving projects continuing the original work. Read the FAQ for more details
[https://community.openconversational.ai/t/faq-ovos-neon-and-the-future-of-the-mycroft-voice-assistant](https://community.openconversational.ai/t/faq-ovos-neon-and-the-future-of-the-mycroft-voice-assistant)